Concise Minutes - Finance Committee


Meeting Venue: Hybrid - Committee

room 4 Ty Hywel and video conference

via Zoom

Meeting date: Wednesday, 18 October 2023

Meeting time: 09.30 - 12.05
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/13507


Hybrid

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Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

Peredur Owen Griffiths MS (Chair)

Peter Fox MS

Mike Hedges MS

Rhianon Passmore MS

Witnesses:

Michelle Morris, Public Services Ombudsman for Wales

Chris Vinestock, Public Services Ombudsman for Wales

Katrin Shaw, Public Services Ombudsman for Wales

Mick Antoniw MS, Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution

Emma Alexander, Welsh Government

Will Whiteley, Welsh Government

Committee Staff:

Owain Roberts (Clerk)

Leanne Hatcher (Second Clerk)

Mike Lewis (Deputy Clerk)

Owen Holzinger (Researcher)

Christian Tipples (Researcher)

Martin Jennings (Researcher)

 

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Registration (09.00-09.15)

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Private Pre-meeting (09.15-09.30)

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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Finance Committee.

 

1.2 Mike Hedges MS declared that he is the Chair of the Senedd’s Cross-Party Group on the Public & Commercial Service Union (PCS).

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2       Paper(s) to note

2.1 The papers were noted.

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2.1   PTN 1 - Letter from the Senedd Commission: Further information following the Senedd Commission budget session on 5 October - 10 October 2023

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2.2   PTN 2 - Letter from the PCS Union: Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25 - 11 October 2023

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2.3   PTN 3 - Letter from the Chief Secretary to the Treasury: UK Government Autumn Statement - 11 October 2023

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3       Public Services Ombudsman for Wales (PSOW) - Scrutiny of Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23, and Estimate 2024-25: Evidence session

3.1 The Committee took evidence on the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales’s Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23, and Estimate 2024-25 from Michelle Morris, Public Services Ombudsman for Wales; Chris Vinestock, Chief Operating Officer and Director of Improvement; and Katrin Shaw, Chief Legal Adviser and Director of Investigations.

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Break (10.30-10.45)

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Public

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4       Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Evidence session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution

4.1 The Committee took evidence on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill from Mick Antoniw MS, Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution; Will Whiteley, Deputy Director, Senedd Reform; and Emma Alexander, Head of Senedd Reform Delivery.

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5       Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

5.1 The motion was agreed.

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6       Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Consideration of evidence

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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7       Public Services Ombudsman for Wales (PSOW) - Scrutiny of Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23, and Estimate 2024-25: Consideration of evidence

7.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

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8       Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25: Consideration of draft report

8.1 The Committee considered and agreed the draft report on the Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25.

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